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Omniclasm · Nov 02, 2007, 02:38 PM // 14:38

The fewer number of enemies, the more effective they are. Try them against Glint, it is pretty much a guaranteed win.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 02, 2007, 04:04 PM // 16:04

Still not worth it.

street peddler · Nov 02, 2007, 07:01 PM // 19:01

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

They used to be pretty good skill back with faction release but the nerfs have pretty much made them like balth pend. Just bad overall

not at all actually, theyre still extremely useful.

zwei2stein · Nov 02, 2007, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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Originally Posted by Omniclasm

The fewer number of enemies, the more effective they are. Try them against Glint, it is pretty much a guaranteed win.

Yes, glint is fine example of how powerfull those skills can be ... the less enemies, the more usefull. thats why spiritspamers are good in 4 man arenas.

Quicksilver Switch-Blade · Nov 03, 2007, 01:01 AM // 01:01

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Originally Posted by street peddler

not at all actually, theyre still extremely useful.

If there was no other skill that could do what they do, this would be true, but right now, a bonder or prot monk is better for the team. I've used the build multiple times post-nerf, in GWEN and DoA, its just not viable, sure they give some cool down for your monks (5 seconds at most), but just taking another monk would be better, plus there are much better things your rit could be doing.

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Yes, glint is fine example of how powerfull those skills can be ... the less enemies, the more usefull. thats why spiritspamers are good in 4 man arenas.

Not sure why thats a good thing, considering how little amount of fights actually come down to 1v1 or 4v4 in PvE. Id much rather these be useful when there are multiple enemies so it can be useful in 8v8 PvP and general PvE, rather than a few select areas in PvE and RA/TA.
Also, why would you use glint as an example, how many fights are like that, the end boss fights?
That doesn't sound like a good enough reason to say they are fine as is imo.

Omniclasm · Nov 03, 2007, 02:40 AM // 02:40

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver Switch-Blade

Not sure why thats a good thing, considering how little amount of fights actually come down to 1v1 or 4v4 in PvE. Id much rather these be useful when there are multiple enemies so it can be useful in 8v8 PvP and general PvE, rather than a few select areas in PvE and RA/TA.
Also, why would you use glint as an example, how many fights are like that, the end boss fights?
That doesn't sound like a good enough reason to say they are fine as is imo.

Jotun are actually a pretty good example too. They usually don't have more than 3-4 in their group.

Quicksilver Switch-Blade · Nov 03, 2007, 03:17 AM // 03:17

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Originally Posted by Omniclasm

Jotun are actually a pretty good example too. They usually don't have more than 3-4 in their group.

Spirits dont effect hexes, so its not going to save you, the hexes are what kill you (though if Izzy fixes the duration of Ineptitude and Clumsiness, that won't be too much of a problem, it will give your melee a chance to actually attack), so I don't see how a spirits will save you compared to a prot monk. So using that as an example is kinda pointless.